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| McDLT Moderator Joined May 14, 2004 1451 posts Location: Toronto |
 Pedobaptism |
Posted Jun 21, 2005; 7:41 am |
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In short - Infant baptism (also called paedobaptism and pedobaptism), the baptism of the infant or young children of believers.
A little longer (click link) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_baptism
What do you think of pedobaptism? |
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| rudyhiebert Member Joined Oct 2, 2003 486 posts Location: Abbotsford BC |
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Posted Jun 21, 2005; 4:38 pm |
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| As an M.B. - no agreement from me, because it's another empty topic to distract from the true mission of the church. |
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| Bro Member Joined May 4, 2004 912 posts Location: Richmond B.C. |
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Posted Jun 21, 2005; 6:22 pm |
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I support Believer's baptism and would be true to our Anabaptist roots and encourage others to support it as well.
Children can be " dedicated to the Lord" which I believe in and support.It is actually a charge to the parents and the congregation to lead the child in christian ways. |
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| vanislandwoman |
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Posted Jun 21, 2005; 6:41 pm |
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| The article describes the different beliefs quite well. I was 'baptized' as a baby. During my childhood, I believed in Jesus, and made a childhood confession of faith at summer camp. As an adult, I truly realized and confessed my lost condition and received Christ as my Saviour, and started my serious walk with Him. I believe that I was filled with the Holy Spirit at that time. Still later on, I came to the Mennonite Brethren, and after a long time of struggling with the issue, desired and received baptism as an act of discipleship and commitment. Occassionally I still re-visit the question in my mind, and come again to peace about my decision. |
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| Todd Moderator Joined Sep 9, 2004 1135 posts Location: Winnipeg |
| Re: Pedobaptism |
Posted Jun 21, 2005; 8:21 pm |
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| McDLT wrote: | In short - Infant baptism (also called paedobaptism and pedobaptism), the baptism of the infant or young children of believers.
A little longer (click link) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_baptism
What do you think of pedobaptism? |
I think believer's baptism is preferable to pedobaptism as I believe that salvation begins with personal faith. Though I'm not an expert on the history of baptism, it does trouble me somewhat that the case for believer's baptism isn't well-grounded in history. |
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| Brent Member Joined Apr 9, 2005 243 posts Location: Simcoe Ontario |
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Posted Jun 21, 2005; 8:37 pm |
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| McDLT wrote: | In short - Infant baptism (also called paedobaptism and pedobaptism), the baptism of the infant or young children of believers.
A little longer (click link) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_baptism
What do you think of pedobaptism? |
Its really too bad, as far as I am concerned, that paedobaptism is practiced. It just doesn't capture the pcture that Paul paints in Romans 6. It does not reflect the only clear examples we have of baptism in Scripture. Only Credobaptism does those things. I would also add tha paedobaptism is a practiced founded in beliefs abotu the New Covenant which I find biblcially unsupportable.
As for history, Tertullian I belive argues for catechumens being baptised as adults. Certaily you only hear abotu the baptism of infants, but I tend to think that its an issue that game up in the post-apostolic period by necessityof the nature of the case, and represents a drift away from biblical practice. |
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| McDLT Moderator Joined May 14, 2004 1451 posts Location: Toronto |
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Posted Jun 22, 2005; 3:15 pm |
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I seem to remember someone telling me that the basis for the belief is that the "whole household" was baptised when someone believed and they interpret this to mean infants and small children as well.
Which of course brings to mind how old should you be to be baptised? |
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| McDLT Moderator Joined May 14, 2004 1451 posts Location: Toronto |
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Posted Jun 22, 2005; 3:19 pm |
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| rudyhiebert wrote: | | As an M.B. - no agreement from me, because it's another empty topic to distract from the true mission of the church. |
I'm asking the question so I (and maybe others) can learn more and be able to reach out to all peoples.  |
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| Brent Member Joined Apr 9, 2005 243 posts Location: Simcoe Ontario |
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Posted Jun 23, 2005; 6:25 am |
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| McDLT wrote: | I seem to remember someone telling me that the basis for the belief is that the "whole household" was baptised when someone believed and they interpret this to mean infants and small children as well.
Which of course brings to mind how old should you be to be baptised? |
I am not sure I follow that first paragraph. Paedobaptists certainly hold that the whole household includes infants. That's their biblical justification for the practice. I had not heard that it was held that the infants who were baptised "beleived." I would agree that the texts that speak of household baptism also speak of household faith, but that doesn't prove anything in itself about whether infants were baptised.
As for the question, I would suggest a case by case basis using the combined wisdom of the elders. |
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